17 A prophecy against Damascus:
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
2 The cities of Aroer will be deserted
and left to flocks, which will lie down,
with no one to make them afraid.
3 The fortified city will disappear from Ephraim,
and royal power from Damascus;
the remnant of Aram will be
like the glory of the Israelites,”
declares the Lord Almighty.
More prophesy
Ezekiel 38
New International Version: The Lord’s Great Victory Over the Nations
38 The word of the Lord came to me:
2 “Son of man, set your face against Gog, of the land of Magog, the chief prince of (Russia) Meshek and Tubal (Eastern Turkey); prophesy against him
3 and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal.
4 I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords.
5 Persia (Iran), Cush (Sudan Etheopia) and Put (Lybia) will be with them, all with shields and helmets,
6 also Gomer (Turkey—complete)with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah (House of Syria) from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.
The prophecy in the book of Ezekiel, Chapter 38, is an actual warning of an attack on Israel in the future, from a group of nations led by someone called Gog, who comes from Magog. Magog is said to be North West of the Caspian Sea, there are just two countries North West of the Caspian Sea, Kazakhstan, and Russia. Gog is the head chieftain, (leader) of Meshech and Tubal which according to Wikipedia is a Japhetite tribe (one of the ten lost tribes of Israel).
However, the Indo-European group is no longer known as "Japhetite", the Hamitic group is now recognized as paraphyletic within the Afro-Asiatic family. Among Muslim historians, Japheth is usually regarded as the ancestor of the Gog and Magog tribes. According to Delilah Ann Gill, Ghayin, (Hebrew) later shortened to G, is a twisted rope or a twisted dark goat horn thus it is Gog: Dark and Twisted.
The United States and Great Britain in Prophecy
To find out the answer we have to go back around 4,000 years to when a man called Jacob was born, who later was given the name Israel and is regarded as a Patriarch of the Israelites and so is an important figure in Abrahamic religions, such as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Jacob first appears in the Book of Genesis, the son of Isaac and Rebecca, the grandson of Abraham, Sarah and Bethuel, the nephew of Ishmael. Jacob is said to have had twelve sons by four women, his wives, Leah and Rachel, and his concubines, Bilhah and Zilpah, who were, in order of their birth, Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph, and Benjamin, all of whom became the heads of their own family groups, later known as the Twelve Tribes of Israel. More here
When the Jews entered the Promised Land, the 12 tribes settled in a different region, and eventually, the tribes split into two kingdoms. The southern kingdom was called Judah and consisted of two tribes, Judah and Benjamin. The remaining 10 tribes formed the northern kingdom, which was called Israel.
In 721 BC, the Assyrians conquered Israel, the northern kingdom and deported the Israelites to an area north of the Euphrates River between the Black and Caspian Seas. (2 Kings 17). The Ten tribes who were deported never returned to the northern nation of Israel after their captivity.
The Lost Ten Tribes Of Israel
According to Mr Armstrong, The knowledge and identity of the descendants of ancient Israel are revealed by a close examination of scripture and secular history. Are the ten lost tribes of Israel linked to the UK, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand? Ezekial was commissioned by God to be "the watchman" for the house of Israel. (Ezekial 2:3; 33:7). However, Ezekiel's commission was not to be the watchman of his own people and his generation, which was the house of Judah, the southern kingdom or the northern ten tribes of Israel which had been conquered by the Assyrians 120 years earlier, no Ezekiel's commission was not for Israel of his day but for the ten lost tribes of the north and their future.
God wanted Ezekiel to sound the alarm, to warn the lost tribes of future calamities which would take over them and they would be unaware of their fate. Jehovah takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, no he wanted to warn them, giving them the responsibility of their own fate, (Ezekiel 33: 9-16). Ezekiel's warning was for end-time Israel. (Ezekiel 4: 3). In fact, we are told that the warnings were for the time near the Day Of The Lord. (Ezekiel 7:19;13:5; 30:1-3; 38: 1-29).
Tarshish and the Young Lions
The prophecy in the book of Ezekiel, Chapter 38, is an actual warning of an attack on Israel in the future, from a group of nations led by someone called Gog, who comes from Magog. Magog is said to be North West of the Caspian Sea, there are just two countries North West of the Caspian Sea, Kazakhstan and Russia. Gog is the head chieftain, (leader) of Meshech and Tubal which according to Wikipedia is a Japhetite tribe (one of the ten lost tribes). However, the Indo-European group is no longer known as "Japhetite", the Hamitic group is now recognized as paraphyletic within the Afro-Asiatic family. Among Muslim historians, Japheth is usually regarded as the ancestor of the Gog and Magog tribes. According to Delilah Ann Gill, Ghayin, (Hebrew) later shortened to G, is a twisted rope or a twisted dark goat horn thus it is Gog: Dark and Twisted:
Ezekiel goes on to say Persia, Ethiopia and Put are among the coalition, Persia is modern-day Iran, (Iran's leaders despise Israel and would dearly love to wipe it off the map) and Put, which is thought to be Lybia. In verse 8, Ezekiel mentions the fact, that after many years of being left desolated, the inhabitants of the land (Jews) have been restored to Israel and will be living in peace and security at the time of the attack. Part of this prophecy was established in 1948 when the Jews regained their land after they had lost it 2,000 years earlier, however, they are obviously not living in peace and security at the moment but just this month a surprising peace deal has been reached between Isreal and the United Arab Emirates, who became the third Arab country to make peace after Egypt and Jordan.
In Ezekiel 38: 11, he claims, the coalition will invade the land of unprotected settlements to take much spoil and plunder. Ezekiel 13 claims, that Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and its "young lions," (this phrase is a Hebrew idiom meaning the nations that have come out of Tarshish) will say to (Gog), "Are you invading to get much spoil and plunder?" " Have you assembled your armies to carry off silver and gold?
Sheba and Dedan are what's now called Saudi Arabia and they are allies of Tarshish and its young lions. Tarshish is almost certainly the UK and was mentioned in the Bible as far back as Genesis 10. Tarshish translates to the "Tin Isles." Tin was needed in ancient times to make bronze, tin has been mined in Britain for thousands of years, something not mined in great quantities anywhere else in Europe. The “merchants of Tarshish and the young lions thereof” are the offshoots of Britain from their Empire days, the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Britain ruled the oceans and used their ships to connect the world with ocean shipping roots which are exploited today by its "young lions, " The mighty US among others. Full story
Why do I think Tarshis is The British Isles?
Tarshish is mentioned in the prophecies of Scripture as having an important role in the last days. Usually, reference is made to “the ships of Tarshish” or the “merchants of Tarshish”. If we can locate Tarshish in the ancient world we can identify Tarshish in the last- days prophecies
Psalm 72: 10. The kings of Tarshish and of the isles shall bring presents: the kings of Sheba and Seba shall offer gifts. In September 2019, scientists made a breakthrough discovery by identifying tin ingots found in Israel as being originally from Cornwall. The ingots, which date back to around 1,300 BC, were discovered at shipwreck sites and a sunken village off the coast of Israel from a time when Phoenician ships dominated the Mediterranean.
Others have also pointed to the role Britain had in aiding the return of the Jewish people to their historic homeland: “Surely the coastlands shall wait for Me; And the ships of Tarshish will come first, To bring your sons from afar, Their silver and their gold with them, To the name of the Lord your God, And to the Holy One of Israel Because He has glorified you.” (Isaiah 60:9). Cufi.org
A promise to Abraham
In Genesis 12: 2-3 God promises Abraham a great nation and tells him he will have a great name and he will be blessed. God also told Abraham, I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth, Genesis 13:14-16. And in Genesis 15, Abraham's descendants would be like the number of the stars. Abraham would go on to have two sons, his first son Ishmael was born from his maidservant Hagar and the Arab nations take their origin from Ismael's sons. Abraham then had a child with his own wife Sarah and they called him Isaac. Many years after Jehovah's promise to Abraham he reconfirmed them to his son Isaac.
The Beginning of Israel
Isaac and his wife, Rebecca had two sons, twins, Jacob and Esau. In Genesis 28:13-14, Jacob's descendants would spread abroad to the west and east and to the north and south and Jacob's seed would be in of the families of the world and they shall be blessed. We see here the inheritance God promised Jacob was to encompass more than just the lands of the Middle East but the entire world. Jehovah changed Jacob's name to Israel and he went on to have 12 sons, the original ancestors of the twelve tribes of Israel. Two kingdoms would derive from the twelve tribes of Israel, Israel in the north consisting of ten tribes and Judah in the South consisting of two tribes. Judah's descendants in the south were promised a line of Kings culminating in the King of Kings the Messiah. Joseph's descendants in the north were given the promise of national greatness.
As we read earlier Israel in the north was broken up by the Assyrians and its people were captured and taken to a place between the Black and Caspian Seas, which was probably eastern Turkey or northern Iran. years later Judah in the South was captured and its residents were taken back to Babylon but some of them returned to Judah after Babylon was conquered by the Persians, the ten tribes of the north never went back, they headed north, ultimately to northwestern Europe.
The Birthright Promises Are Fulfilled.
Mr Armstrong writes; Seven prophetic times, 2,520 years went by from the time of Samaria's fall, (the capital of Israel in the north), in 721 BC. This brings us to 1800 AD and the time according to scripture, Abraham's descendants would begin coming into the possession of the birthright promises. Mr Armstrong goes on, the remarkable story of English-speaking nations that unfolded after 1800 is astounding (and once again proved that Tarshish and her young lions were the UK, US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, added by Gary Walton).
England Emerges.
After the War of the Roses which ended in 1485, a stable government under the Tudor dynasty of Henry VII ruled England and brought them out of the Dark Ages. Over the next century, the tiny nation began to develop into a sea power. By the end of the 1800s, Great Britain had amassed the biggest empire ever known. The small Islands ruled over a quarter of the world's land, "the sun never sets on her Empire". The most powerful company of nations, the British Empire and the greatest single nation, the US, emerged right on schedule fulfilling God's prophecy to Abraham. With Australia, New Zealand and Canada Great Britain came into possession of some of the richest agricultural land on earth.
The rest, as they say, is history, Ezekiel's warning goes unheard, God's desire for repentance, not punishment will never happen, the US and UK are morally in tatters, sin is rampant and both countries are heading for a fall, England, of course, lost her empire and America is slowly relenting power to China
Two declining powers
The prophecy in the book of Ezekiel, Chapter 38, gives us actual insight into the two declining powers in the last few days. What is interesting to note here is the fact that Israel's staunch allies of today, the US and the UK appear not to be able to defend Israel from the Magog coalition who merely ask Gog in a weak response, "Are you invading Israel to get much spoil and plunder?" "Have you assembled your armies to carry off silver and gold?" A polite, meek diplomatic protest rather than a threat of retaliation.
The US and UK have clearly lost their "Super Power" status in the future and can't come to the defence of Israel? Have today's problems brought the country to its knees in the future? Ezekiel 38:13.
Stay safe folks
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6 comments:
oday we learned Assad fled to Russia and is alive.
WW3 has started I think.
Could Gog and Magog be the Roth child's & Rockers?
Damascus to become uninhabitable. Not there yet but does fit to Ezekiel as Gary wrote.
Thanks Gary!
Hi buddy, thanks.
According to my research books—The prophecy in the book of Ezekiel, Chapter 38, is a warning of an attack on Israel in the future, from a group of nations led by someone called Gog, who comes from Magog. Magog is said to be North West of the Caspian Sea, there are just two countries North West of the Caspian Sea, Kazakhstan and Russia. It has to be Russia, will it be Putin? We don't know . . .
Isn't this prophecy about Gog & Magog one of the most interesting as it relates clearly to end times and as it is one that we still don't quite get yet?!
Yes Gary, as you replied, Gog & Magog are clearly told to be nations as John pretty much says that in Rev chapter 20 and also said as nations in Ezekiel38, but in the beginning, Genesis, Magog is a man who is the grandson of Noah. Then hundreds of years later Gog is another man who was a descendant of the 12 tribes of Jacob.
Now that is where it gets interesting.
Basically for me to get the gist of this prophecy, Gog & Magog came from chosen good guys (Noah & Jacob) but we're not good guys as their forefathers were. So it also is like symbolism using those names to imply sin and evil that is against God/God's people. Gog & Magog are on satans side.
That's why I said maybe it's meant to be the Roths/Rockers crowd? Because let's face it, the Roths and Rockers are who is behind all the evil in this world, the secret society that isn't so secret anymore, the big bosses of satans minions, our leaders and rulers etc. today.
Without trying to pin point details regarding nations or persons, Gog and Magog represent God's opposer's who are on the side of evil. This being and end time prophecy is also a subliminal message and 'sign' of the times to us who are on God's side, when you see Gog and Magog know it is sin and in the end times God has told us He will destroy sin, hence it being a sign to see to know what time it is!
That's how I look at it because it's too much to try to put it to news in this world for my head!
Just confirms, for me, oh yes indeed we are in the last days and oh yes indeed our Savior and King Jesus is soon to be here, like really really soon and that is so exciting to me, the hope that keeps me going through all the horrible shit that is happening to me and around me.
Just wanted to share that to spread that great feeling of hope to you and your readers Gary!
We need good news to feed our spirits, so there ya go!
Ha, I can't wait to see more. It's so fascinating. All the glory to God!!
Amen Buddy xx
Gog and Magog are 1000 years after the first resurrection how could this possibly be it? And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Well anonymous has made a great point in his comment referring to the thousand years after the resurrection, when satan is released from his prison, for the Gog/Magog sign of the times. But you said the first resurrection, meaning the rapture I think? Isn't the first resurrection really when Christ was resurrected after 3 days after His crucifixion? So the rapture would be the 2nd? I'm asking.?
This is why this end time prophecy is hard to understand and we have put it to be in these end times before the final thousand years, due to Ezekiel38 saying "in the latter days".
Since reading what you wrote anonymous, I re-read the Gog/Magog writings in Ezekiel and Revelation. They don't really match...? You are right to say what you said because the part you quoted is written in Rev 20, but in Ezekiel 38:2-3 it says "this will happen in the latter days". But in Rev 20 it says after the thousand years has expired.??
My whole point in my last comment was to just concentrate on the "moral of the story" being Gog/Magog represent sin and those opposed to God's people so just be on the right side, with God. Because the details of this prophecy are confusing, at least to me.
Ezekiel describes "all of them riding on horses", and "this will happen in the latter days". Well that fits to the four horses in the end times when Christ returns to rapture His church. Rev20 totally contradicts that. So which is it?
Other places in the Bible give numbers for time but are not actual or literal. One example most are familiar with is "one day is as a thousand years...".
I have wondered if the thousand years anonymous is referring to means one day and not literally a thousand years before satan is released from his prison after Christ returns and puts satan there for a thousand years.? How can we know? I'm going to ask my teachers this!
Meantime the main message still holds true to putting the details of this prophecy aside and focus on the message. Do not be on the side of sin!
For me, along side all Bible prophecy in the end times seeming to be these days we are in now, is the GW/Climate change that IS in play big time right now and for years past cinches the deal. I see that fitting quite clearly along with all the other signs Christ spoke of to know the season of the times. Know it is the end when you see, "pestilence, earthquakes in divers places, love of many growing cold, etc. ..." and in the last book of the old testament where it says in the last days it will be hot as an oven. All of that fits perfectly to today's times, so the weather manipulation by man and what is causing the extreme heat of our planet seals the deal for me that yes we are in the final years before Christ's return, absolutely, because our ecosystem is in collapse and man can do nothing to stop that. So how can we possibly go another thousand years this way? It's not possible! Without the environment we are all dead, every living thing dies. That IS happening too.
So Rev20 puts a money wrench in all of this if we are reading it correctly.
There must be something we are missing with Rev20 because there are too many other things, including Ezekiel38 that trump (please excuse the pun) one verse (Rev20). That's why the thousand years is as one day verse comes to my mind. Is it meaning one day maybe?
Anyone else out there reading our thoughts here have any input to contribute to this prophecy??
Good input anonymous! Thanks for sharing that. It kind of bums me out though, haha, another thousand years of misery, flooding, hurricanes, oven heat, pestilence, no love! Ahhhhh! I can't be, the environment can not go another thousand years, it's collapsing now! Does Gog/Magog happen twice? Does the thousand years mean one day? Why do these two books (Ezekiel38 & Rev20) contradict each other? Great discussion folks!
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